I agree, Malina. I too have been dissatisfied of late, due to some past disappointments stemming from a lack of commitment to establishing and following through with storylines. It is frustrating when one puts time and effort into a plot, only to have it fizzle.
What would we have you do, Tzolkin? I'm so glad you asked--I have a few suggestions.
When a plotline is proposed and approved, set a loose timeline in which it should be completed. (Ex. Let's start X in March, Y will happen in May, and the finale will be in July. Nothing too rigid--this is supposed to be fun, after all.)
Should a major player have to drop out or lose interest or what have you, then a)The player should arrange to have their part spoofed by another player of their choosing and/or written out by a wiz, or b)retcon the whole thing. (I understand retconning is generally a last resort, and I'm content to have it remain so.)
I understand people having lives, or developing different interests--that's only human and totally fine. What's not so fine is leaving other players hanging, who have contributed enthusiastically to the plotline. I don't believe anyone on the Muck is intentionally inconsiderate, but this particular behavior can certainly be interpreted that way.
I think we have a lot of good ideas on the MUCK, the Staggs and the disaster in the Mouse Colony being the most promising. The trick is, we should figure out (generally) where we want these plots to go. I say 'generally' because we should still leave room for the sponteneity and flow of ideas that made the Muck so attractive to begin with.
But it's important to figure out where we want to go, because without a end goal in sight, we end up wandering aimlessly.
HI,Chris here,Iv' been on the muck for about a week,and have been having trouble making freinds.I spend most my time in the gym RPing by myself,but if you fell like chatting OOCly or ICly,come on down,I could always use some RP practice and love to meet people.So,don't be afraid,I look mean but i'm really not.
The meetings bit has been suggested before, but from my experience getting people to attend them is typically like trying to herd cats. Also, I spent a great deal of energy trying to put people's ideas together, and to be honest that did not go well at all, because then I had to try and manage RP, which I can't do by myself, and no matter what I did, someone would complain and/or shut down in response.
Well it is very hard to connect to the internet at my home. See, we use a renegade linksys line that nobody owns to connect, but ut fades in and out and the only computer that we have that gets internet is my mom's laptop from work, so I don't get to use it that offten. I will try to get permission to use it moer offten but I don't know if I can.
If your school blocks the ports that the muck needs, then there's not much we can do to help. Maybe you should try connecting at home instead of at school?
Cool, welcome to the NIMHmuck forum! If you haven't already, you should check out the muck itself; just go here to get started: http://www.nimhmuck.org/connect
The intent is that her 'irritant' is just that: an irritant. Itchyness, swelling, allergenic reactions, that sort of thing. She knows (or thinks) that the Staggs aren't smart enough to figure out that she's leading them on.
Of course, now that you mention it, maybe some actual symptoms of illness might be interesting >:D
The last pose threw me off; the first couple of times I read it, I thought she was gloating to herself about her power as 'a weak little irritant' to upset the balance of power in the valley. So basically she's just going to cause upset stomachs, cramps, fevers, and whatnot, and hope they're not quite enough to allow the Staggs to wipe out any opposition. Great.
Yeah, okay, so maybe she's not quite fratricidal anymore...but only because she's not going to go about it directly. Not that I'm a law expert or anything, but I still think this sounds like she's setting herself up for criminally negligent homicide charges... "I didn't fire the gun!" "No, you just gave it and the ammo to the guy who fired the gun..."
I have plans for her to get her comeuppance. Be patient :P
And Sirana doesn't want to kill anybody. She knows that whatever she gives Drasta will be countered very quickly by the rats (read that last post carefully). All she wants to do is have some (cruel) fun, which of course is going to bite her in the end.
Sounds like Sirana has just added her name to the (growing) list of, "To Be Killed Before This Plot Arc Ends" rats...
Seriously, she's gone from being an annoying ***** to a fratricidal nut-job bent on inflicting as much misery on the other colonies in the Valley as possible. Can we put her head on a pike, too? Right next to Merrick's and Cassius'? Please?
You should put this in your pinfo, and maybe mention it in your desc and such. That way people can take a look at you and know without having to look up this post or whatnot.
*Sighs* Obviously I failed to make the reference obvious enough--'twas homage to Westley's "To the Pain" monologue thingy from 'The Princess Bride'. (Granted, I did cut out Prince Humperdink's lines, but still...)
But that aside, seriously, does anyone -not- think that Cassius deserves a drawn out, painful end? o.O
And no, Seth, I've never given a single "Saw" movie a moment of my time. Gorenography like that...yeah, I'll pass.
And I thought -I- was sadistic.
But have you ever seen that part in one of the "Saw" movies, where they take this guy and twist his limbs, like 720 degrees? That's how I'd like to see Cassius die. Or maybe a live dissection.
I hereby declare that I'm first in line for a shot at Cassius when it comes time for him to die. Figure we can kill him slowly--feet below the ankles, then hands at the wrists, next his nose, then his tongue, then his left eye followed by his right. Then we can all stab/cleave/whatever for the finishing blow, and toss his head on Merick's lap before he dies, too. In a similar fashion, of course.
Anyone else up for a raining down a little bloody mob justice on this ?
Arg... I think I deleted some comments that I didn't mean to while trying to get rid of a spammer's comments. Sorry. x.x
I agree, Malina. I too have been dissatisfied of late, due to some past disappointments stemming from a lack of commitment to establishing and following through with storylines. It is frustrating when one puts time and effort into a plot, only to have it fizzle.
What would we have you do, Tzolkin? I'm so glad you asked--I have a few suggestions.
When a plotline is proposed and approved, set a loose timeline in which it should be completed. (Ex. Let's start X in March, Y will happen in May, and the finale will be in July. Nothing too rigid--this is supposed to be fun, after all.)
Should a major player have to drop out or lose interest or what have you, then a)The player should arrange to have their part spoofed by another player of their choosing and/or written out by a wiz, or b)retcon the whole thing. (I understand retconning is generally a last resort, and I'm content to have it remain so.)
I understand people having lives, or developing different interests--that's only human and totally fine. What's not so fine is leaving other players hanging, who have contributed enthusiastically to the plotline. I don't believe anyone on the Muck is intentionally inconsiderate, but this particular behavior can certainly be interpreted that way.
I think we have a lot of good ideas on the MUCK, the Staggs and the disaster in the Mouse Colony being the most promising. The trick is, we should figure out (generally) where we want these plots to go. I say 'generally' because we should still leave room for the sponteneity and flow of ideas that made the Muck so attractive to begin with.
But it's important to figure out where we want to go, because without a end goal in sight, we end up wandering aimlessly.
That's my take on the situation.
HI,Chris here,Iv' been on the muck for about a week,and have been having trouble making freinds.I spend most my time in the gym RPing by myself,but if you fell like chatting OOCly or ICly,come on down,I could always use some RP practice and love to meet people.So,don't be afraid,I look mean but i'm really not.
The meetings bit has been suggested before, but from my experience getting people to attend them is typically like trying to herd cats. Also, I spent a great deal of energy trying to put people's ideas together, and to be honest that did not go well at all, because then I had to try and manage RP, which I can't do by myself, and no matter what I did, someone would complain and/or shut down in response.
What else would you have us do?
Well it is very hard to connect to the internet at my home. See, we use a renegade linksys line that nobody owns to connect, but ut fades in and out and the only computer that we have that gets internet is my mom's laptop from work, so I don't get to use it that offten. I will try to get permission to use it moer offten but I don't know if I can.
They only way to get on is by choosing one of the options here: http://www.nimhmuck.org/connect
If your school blocks the ports that the muck needs, then there's not much we can do to help. Maybe you should try connecting at home instead of at school?
Cool, welcome to the NIMHmuck forum! If you haven't already, you should check out the muck itself; just go here to get started: http://www.nimhmuck.org/connect
Yeah, no surprise...
*Points and laughs at Sirana ala Nelson Muntz*
I am enjoying this arc... :P
*snugs teh Kieran* I don't think anyone will object, dearie. Knock yourself out. XD
...can we kill Merick now? Please? Pretty please? With sugar on top?
I likes it. But you already know that, heh. ^^;
...great...just great... >.<
The intent is that her 'irritant' is just that: an irritant. Itchyness, swelling, allergenic reactions, that sort of thing. She knows (or thinks) that the Staggs aren't smart enough to figure out that she's leading them on.
Of course, now that you mention it, maybe some actual symptoms of illness might be interesting >:D
The last pose threw me off; the first couple of times I read it, I thought she was gloating to herself about her power as 'a weak little irritant' to upset the balance of power in the valley. So basically she's just going to cause upset stomachs, cramps, fevers, and whatnot, and hope they're not quite enough to allow the Staggs to wipe out any opposition. Great.
Yeah, okay, so maybe she's not quite fratricidal anymore...but only because she's not going to go about it directly. Not that I'm a law expert or anything, but I still think this sounds like she's setting herself up for criminally negligent homicide charges... "I didn't fire the gun!" "No, you just gave it and the ammo to the guy who fired the gun..."
I have plans for her to get her comeuppance. Be patient :P
And Sirana doesn't want to kill anybody. She knows that whatever she gives Drasta will be countered very quickly by the rats (read that last post carefully). All she wants to do is have some (cruel) fun, which of course is going to bite her in the end.
I'll editplayer ASAP ^_^. But what exactly is a pinfo?
Sounds like Sirana has just added her name to the (growing) list of, "To Be Killed Before This Plot Arc Ends" rats...
Seriously, she's gone from being an annoying ***** to a fratricidal nut-job bent on inflicting as much misery on the other colonies in the Valley as possible. Can we put her head on a pike, too? Right next to Merrick's and Cassius'? Please?
You should put this in your pinfo, and maybe mention it in your desc and such. That way people can take a look at you and know without having to look up this post or whatnot.
Plus, 'editplayer' makes doing so a snap. ^^
*Sighs* Obviously I failed to make the reference obvious enough--'twas homage to Westley's "To the Pain" monologue thingy from 'The Princess Bride'. (Granted, I did cut out Prince Humperdink's lines, but still...)
But that aside, seriously, does anyone -not- think that Cassius deserves a drawn out, painful end? o.O
And no, Seth, I've never given a single "Saw" movie a moment of my time. Gorenography like that...yeah, I'll pass.
And I thought -I- was sadistic.
But have you ever seen that part in one of the "Saw" movies, where they take this guy and twist his limbs, like 720 degrees? That's how I'd like to see Cassius die. Or maybe a live dissection.
Pfft, go at 'im. I'm no executioner.
Holy cow, Kieran. I never realized how bloodthirsty you are.
I hereby declare that I'm first in line for a shot at Cassius when it comes time for him to die. Figure we can kill him slowly--feet below the ankles, then hands at the wrists, next his nose, then his tongue, then his left eye followed by his right. Then we can all stab/cleave/whatever for the finishing blow, and toss his head on Merick's lap before he dies, too. In a similar fashion, of course.
Anyone else up for a raining down a little bloody mob justice on this ?
*snuggles*
I'm so sorry to hear about your loss :( I will pray for you, too, and I hope that you will have the strength to carry onward.
I'll pray for your mother, too, that she may find rest. God bless you both.
And don't forget: you always have friends on NIMHMuck.
Oh Gene. *HUGE HUGS* I am so sorry for your loss. Please accept my condolences and prayers, and be sure to take care of yourself during this time.
Love,
Meg